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    dBVelocity
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    Well I have tested several scenarios now: changing midi ch of controller and 8 step, using specific CC’s and PC messages with each boot up, performing factory restore and swapping with other midi control devices.

    With the Evolution controller, the 8 step mostly failed when sending CC’s over knobs and faders to control rate, depth, glide and step slider values but also occurred when sending CC 34 assigned to a button to toggle start and stop after many presses and another assigned to CC 118 with various values for preset load. The 8 step continued to act normal on boot up and eventually got stuck each time, all without ever rebooting the controller.

    I then used a Roland EF-303 as a controller with the main knobs set to send CC’s for Rate, Glide, Depth and Expression ’24, 25, 28 and 4 respectively’ and set step length as the expression control selected.
    These knobs all worked well without trouble with the exception of Rate control (24) which was only able to control when setting expression control (4) to the rate setting. I never encountered an issue with midi start/ stop/ reset messages (not CC form but midi standard messages) but then I decided to set the 8 step pattern length to 1 and assign my EF-303 step modulator to CC 16 as to obtain a midi controlled 16 step sequence, this did not work great as I hoped and most (95%) values sent were ignored.

    I then swapped to a Roland MC-50 sequencer as the main controller. All midi standard start, stop and reset messages worked beautifully. I then created events in the sequencer for standard program change messages and located the events at around 50 ticks before each measure change. This was about 80% successful for the first 5 min and then became worse as I went along where it would even sometimes change to different programs than triggered.

    All in all, I’d say the midi on my unit is not solid except when using standard start, stop and reset messages. I can continue testing more scenarios but it’s getting quite upsetting and I’ll likely be sending it in. This was my first EHX pedal and it hasn’t been the most pleasing experience as expected but I won’t hold it against the company too hard.

    #118889
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    I know the pedal is brand new, and maybe no one knows the answer to this yet, but I am looking at the 8 step sequencer expression pedal to use in unison with my Line 6 M5 pedal. I currently have a mission expression pedal that I use with it, and I know that I had to seek out a pedal specifically designed to be compatible with line 6 devices. No stores in town have one for me to experiment with yet, so if anyone knows the answer, I’d appreciate it.

    Thanks

    Unfortunately the 8-STEP is not compatible with Line 6 pedals, at least we could not get it to work in our tests. We know it to be compatible with most Boss/Roland gear, Moog, EHX (of course), Nord and Eventide (set DEPTH to 5).

    #82889
    buddymchagan
    Participant

    I know the pedal is brand new, and maybe no one knows the answer to this yet, but I am looking at the 8 step sequencer expression pedal to use in unison with my Line 6 M5 pedal. I currently have a mission expression pedal that I use with it, and I know that I had to seek out a pedal specifically designed to be compatible with line 6 devices. No stores in town have one for me to experiment with yet, so if anyone knows the answer, I’d appreciate it.

    Thanks

    jackdunwoody
    Member

    I’ve been considering the ‘exp thru’ problem and hace a few ideas:

    1. Have a volume pedal between the 8 step and the pedal being controlled – have the 8 Step sending out a consistent full voltage (all sliders on max?) and use the volume pedal to taper the signal down to a lower voltage.

    2. Once again have a consistent full voltage being sent out from the 8 Step and use the ‘depth’ mode on the exp pedal input to control the voltage.

    May work eh?

    I started building my own 8 step sequencer 6 months ago and got this far http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=418J0Gn6vHU when I saw that EHX was releasing the 8 Step Program – I couldn’t believe it!!! I have pre-ordered an 8 Step but still plan to finish my sequencer and house it in a MoogerFooger looking case.

    Calling the ELECTRO HARMONIX TEAM – If you are looking for any staff in the UK please give me a shout!!

    Let’s see what we can do with the 8 Step on this forum – I’m excited!! :cheese:

    nneekolas
    Participant

    EHX has always marched to the beat of a different drum, and they’ve even made a ton of funky drum pedals! Back when disco was king, EHX was pumping out pedals with trigger inputs like the famous Space Drum, and others like the Rolling Thunder, Sonic Boomer, Clap Track, Panic Button, etc. They also made simple drum pattern boxes like the DRM16 and DRM32 (Which I had the pleasure to use in a recording a few years ago). All of these were warm analog beats in the early days of the drum machine.

    EHX can finally bring these great sounds to the 21st Century with this idea:

    Imagine a pedal built into the Ravish enclosure. It has the Ravish’s LED output to let the user pick drum sounds (a list of them could be in the manual) from EHX’s past or even new ones. A list could look like:

    “00 – Metronome
    01 – Kick (From DRM16/DRM32)
    02 – Kick (From Rolling Thunder)
    03 – Kick (From Sonic Boom)
    04 – Snare (From DRM16/DRM32)
    ..
    ..
    21 – Space Drum (From Space Drum)
    22 – Panic Button (From Panic Button)”

    ETC.

    It has two footswitches: a momentary switch for recording and a 3pdt switch for start and stop. Once you pick a tempo for your pattern, the LEDs would scroll to the tempo (like how they do on your AWESOME new 8-step). When you want to put a drum sound somewhere, just tap on the RECORD momentary footswitch. It is now added to the loop. Like if you picked kick, you could tap on the one-beat and on the five-beat (if it has 8-steps, in 4/4 time), now you’ve got a kick drum beat down.

    Scroll to a new drum sound, tap where you want it. Layer to your heart’s content.

    Let’s say you pick a sound like the Space Drum and you want to tweak the sound of it. EHX used to have deluxe versions of some of their drum sounds, and the Super Space Drum was one. You could fine tune where you wanted the start and stop frequencies of the sound, and how fast and deep you wanted the modulation to go. Those settings could be open to all drum sounds. You could tweak the tone and then tap it in your rhythm. When you save a pattern, the changed drum sounds used in the pattern could be saved as well.

    Those big drum pads used in the old pedals aren’t necessary anymore now that drummers have custom pads to trigger such things, pedal geeks have things like the 8-Step Sequencer, and synth players have always had their CV sequencers, synthesizers with CV-out, etc. Just have a midi plugin for the drummers to input their triggers, CV in to plug in your 8-step or other sequencers, and a footswitch to save 100 presets instead of however many you can fit on the pedal itself.

    Besides a regular output, maybe an output for the sequence (the tempo and the rhythm without any tones) for routing to other effects?

    It would be incredible if this could be analog like the old pedals, but the wizardry in the newest digital effects leads me to believe that even digital tones would sound good and be fun for practice, experimenting, synth players, and more. Make this happen and send me one please!

    diegoarts
    Member

    damn i was thinking again:

    this may come a bit late, but wouldn’t it be great if the 8 step program sequencer had a Expression Pedal Through?

    What i mean is – it’s got CV out and an EP/CV in.

    If the pedal was in bypass, the Expression Pedal would go through to the CV input of the controlled pedal.

    say: EP > CV in > 8 STEP PROGRAM > CV out > CV in > maybe RIDDLE.
    8 Step Program Play: EP controlles 8 Step Program EP modes
    8 Step Program Stop/Bypass: EP controlles Riddle (for Pedal-Wah).

    This way you could use both ways at once!

    Is it too late to add this? Is this possible at all?

    would be killer. anyway – great, that the 8 step program gets real!

    EHX rules!

    diego

    SjonP
    Member

    Hello,

    Does any one know if the CV out signal could be split between the expression input of two pedals at the same time? I think it would be very exciting to be able to control the sweep of a low pass filter and the VCO of an analogue synth pedal simultaneously with this sequencer.

    Thanks,

    Sjon

    diegoarts
    Member

    A small 8-step (?) sequencer expression/CV pedal with tap tempo and random mode!

    As a lot of you newer pedals have expression pedal inputs, the idea is to expand this feature with a random or ramp up/down expression sequencer with tap tempo.

    this would be such a cool tool.

    it would turn the riddle into a stepfilter.
    the stereo polyphase into a stereo stepphaser.
    think of the amazingly cool things you could do with a memory man tt or memory boy if used with different expression settings.
    think of controlling the HOG with such a tool.

    for EHX this should be a fast and cool pedal inbetween-design.

    you need a name?

    how about “the one ring” (to rule them all!) ;-)

    please consider this.

    thanks and best regards

    diego

    #114285

    In reply to: HOG Modification

    beedoola
    Participant
    Quote:
    Oh no, I’ve already done awesome things with a HOG and an Arduino. I made a 16 step sequencer that I gave to someone as an Xmas present. I need to get some more parts so that I can make one for myself.

    You don’t actually have to use the MIDI port to do that though, with a digital potentiometer IC or an optoisolater you can plug it into the expression port.

    But with HOG midi control AFAIK you can only really use pitch wheel commands to work like an expression pedal.

    Imagine though if every variable on the HOG had its own CC#. That would bring about infinite new possibilities.

    Oh, I see! Would you be willing to share your arduino build/programming info? I’m a complete and utter noob to it so it would help alot. I build pedals but never done the arduino thing. Thanks

    – David

    #114289

    In reply to: HOG Modification

    julian
    Moderator

    Oh no, I’ve already done awesome things with a HOG and an Arduino. I made a 16 step sequencer that I gave to someone as an Xmas present. I need to get some more parts so that I can make one for myself.

    You don’t actually have to use the MIDI port to do that though, with a digital potentiometer IC or an optoisolater you can plug it into the expression port.

    But with HOG midi control AFAIK you can only really use pitch wheel commands to work like an expression pedal.

    Imagine though if every variable on the HOG had its own CC#. That would bring about infinite new possibilities.

    Cryabetes
    Participant

    yeah. EA-1’s are decently cheap, if you aren’t going for the mkII model. Around 80-150$USD. Mine’s pretty easy to use and actually pretty good sounding on its own or through pedals. and it has an up-to-64 step sequencer.

    only complaint I have about it is no pedal start/stop input and I’m having a beast of a time finding a hardware midi pedal that’ll do it. Got the Digitech PDS3500 and while it is wonderful for changing program info and individual values on the fly, it doesn’t work as a start-stop pedal.

    KartoonHead
    Member

    You’re in the right area, the EA-1 has a step sequencer at the bottom, which is the only thing I’m after. I’m just after something where I can define note pitch and rhythm across 8, 16 or 32 steps and have it send that information out to the Microkorg via MIDI. The Roland MC-303 has a 16-step one.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/MC-303.jpg/800px-MC-303.jpg

    KartoonHead
    Member

    Hi guys,

    I know a few of you use synths in your music and was wondering if any of you knew of a small, tidy (more importantly) inexpensive hardware MIDI step sequencer that I could use to control my Microkorg? It’s got an arpeggiator built in, but I find it very limited. I’ve googled all sorts of variations on ‘MIDI step sequencer’ but can’t find what I’m after, not even anything close, which is worrying :(

    Thanks :)

    #110230

    In reply to: POG2 Sequencer Idea

    julian
    Moderator
    Quote:
    I love the sequenced sound and have been working on a sequencer that plugs into expression pedal jacks on various pedals and runs through 1-10 steps. Even on a pedal with no expression jacks, I could modify the pedal to replace any pot/slider with a jack connection. It’s not done yet, but should create the same sound you are talking about. I’m pretty exited to finish up the project and try it out.

    I’ve made something like that for my HOG. I’ve yet to put it in an actual enclosure. Project is on hold right now while I work on other things.

    #102965

    In reply to: POG2 Sequencer Idea

    nateniph
    Member

    I love the sequenced sound and have been working on a sequencer that plugs into expression pedal jacks on various pedals and runs through 1-10 steps. Even on a pedal with no expression jacks, I could modify the pedal to replace any pot/slider with a jack connection. It’s not done yet, but should create the same sound you are talking about. I’m pretty exited to finish up the project and try it out.

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