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  • #85235
    Langur
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    I want to buy Super Pulsar and i have to say i am impressed by its features but…NO MIDI CLOCK???? WHY???
    Since i have an arturia beatstep pro that works with midi and cv gate, do you know if i can control Super Pulsar clock with a beatstep recieving midi clock and sending cv to super pulsar?

    #123665

    We don’t know if the Beatstep sends out a clock signal or not. Maybe the GATE OUT jack can do it? If it can then the Super Pulsar will be able to sync to the clock signal from the Beatstep.

    Connect the clock signal to the Super Pulsar’s TAP/CLK IN jack and make sure to set the Super Pulsar to CLK IN mode, which is explained in the manual.

    #123677
    Langur
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    Great. I Will check it out.
    Beatstep pro has a cv gate out jack, i never used it since i work with midi connections.
    I dont know if i can send midi and cv gate at the same time, i have to check.
    Does a cv gate outputs a clock?
    Sorry, i am new to this, i always worked only with midi clocks.
    Thanks for reply.

    #123678
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    Great. I Will check it out.
    Beatstep pro has a cv gate out jack, i never used it since i work with midi connections.
    I dont know if i can send midi and cv gate at the same time, i have to check.
    Does a cv gate outputs a clock?
    Sorry, i am new to this, i always worked only with midi clocks.
    Thanks for reply.

    Gate Out does not necessarily mean Clock Out so we’re unsure if the BeatStep is able to output a Clock signal on the Gate output.

    Gate Out is usually an on/off signal, like a logic signal. Clock Out is a logic signal as well.

    CV Out is a continuous analog signal, not a logic signal.

    #123682
    Langur
    Member

    Mmm i have to check.
    I really dont understand why they didnt put midi connections, i think its a very crazy choice.

    #123683
    Fender&EHX4ever
    Moderator

    There are really only a handful of EHX pedals with MIDI implementation. If I recall correctly, the first to include MIDI were the 16 Second Digital Delay RI, The H.O.G., and the 2880 Looper. Since then the trend has been to keep MIDI in the realm of loopers and the H.O.G. 2.

    It’s possible that many guitarists ( who probably make up the majority of the market for EHX products ) have historically not been all that interested in MIDI. I don’t know, just speculating.

    At any rate, EHX have always been pioneers with adding CV inputs to their pedals. I’ve always loved that about their products. I credit EHX for inspiring me to get into Eurorack synthesis, especially their vintage products like the DRM series, the drums, the Clockworks, the sequencers, and the replay samplers.

    My recommendation is that you try to keep an eye out for a used Molten Voltage CTRL-Sync unit. It allows you to convert a MIDI clock signal into a tap signal. It works great on the Super Pulsar and the Deluxe Memory Tap Tempo series. It also allows you to divide or multiply the clock, which is super-useful.

    #123737

    Hi there, a seperate query regarding the clock and how to operate it (or not in my case!):

    I wanted to run the Super Pulsar from Ableton and thought a novel idea might be connecting the Clock In to a metronome output on my audio interface. I put a 50hz pulse into my metronome tone and it seems to work fine.

    However there is definitely electricity somewhere in the circuit – there is no audible hum through any of the audio signal however when I go to unplug the jack from either my interface or the Pulsar, there is loud buzzing and/or pops coming through my PA…

    Despite it working is there some reason electricty could be entering the signal or is it more likely to be a problem elsewhere in my setup, with my PA amplifier for instance??

    Any ideas?

    #123740
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    Hi there, a seperate query regarding the clock and how to operate it (or not in my case!):

    I wanted to run the Super Pulsar from Ableton and thought a novel idea might be connecting the Clock In to a metronome output on my audio interface. I put a 50hz pulse into my metronome tone and it seems to work fine.

    However there is definitely electricity somewhere in the circuit – there is no audible hum through any of the audio signal however when I go to unplug the jack from either my interface or the Pulsar, there is loud buzzing and/or pops coming through my PA…

    Despite it working is there some reason electricty could be entering the signal or is it more likely to be a problem elsewhere in my setup, with my PA amplifier for instance??

    Any ideas?

    If I understand you correctly when you connect the Super Pulsar to your audio interface you start to hear 50Hz hum through your PA? If you disconnect the audio interface from the Super Pulsar the 50Hz hum goes away? Is this correct?

    #123747
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    Hi there, a seperate query regarding the clock and how to operate it (or not in my case!):

    I wanted to run the Super Pulsar from Ableton and thought a novel idea might be connecting the Clock In to a metronome output on my audio interface. I put a 50hz pulse into my metronome tone and it seems to work fine.

    However there is definitely electricity somewhere in the circuit – there is no audible hum through any of the audio signal however when I go to unplug the jack from either my interface or the Pulsar, there is loud buzzing and/or pops coming through my PA…

    Despite it working is there some reason electricty could be entering the signal or is it more likely to be a problem elsewhere in my setup, with my PA amplifier for instance??

    Any ideas?

    If I understand you correctly when you connect the Super Pulsar to your audio interface you start to hear 50Hz hum through your PA? If you disconnect the audio interface from the Super Pulsar the 50Hz hum goes away? Is this correct?

    No – I read that the Super Pulsar clock can read frequencies below 150Hz (I think??) so I’ve inserted a 50Hz pulse into my metronome – the logic being that I can’t hear it in my headphones when using the metronome myself, but that I could plug the Super Pulsar clock into the same headphone output and it be able to read the 50Hz pulse.

    It seems to have worked but I think there’s electricity somewhere in my audio signal – I was wondering if there was any chance this could be connected to the Clock In source? Somehow electricity coming from my interface or something?!?! Or is the Clock In source entirely seperate and the electricity will be coming from elsewhere – an issue with my PA amplifier for instance?

    #123752
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    Hi there, a seperate query regarding the clock and how to operate it (or not in my case!):

    I wanted to run the Super Pulsar from Ableton and thought a novel idea might be connecting the Clock In to a metronome output on my audio interface. I put a 50hz pulse into my metronome tone and it seems to work fine.

    However there is definitely electricity somewhere in the circuit – there is no audible hum through any of the audio signal however when I go to unplug the jack from either my interface or the Pulsar, there is loud buzzing and/or pops coming through my PA…

    Despite it working is there some reason electricty could be entering the signal or is it more likely to be a problem elsewhere in my setup, with my PA amplifier for instance??

    Any ideas?

    If I understand you correctly when you connect the Super Pulsar to your audio interface you start to hear 50Hz hum through your PA? If you disconnect the audio interface from the Super Pulsar the 50Hz hum goes away? Is this correct?

    No – I read that the Super Pulsar clock can read frequencies below 150Hz (I think??) so I’ve inserted a 50Hz pulse into my metronome – the logic being that I can’t hear it in my headphones when using the metronome myself, but that I could plug the Super Pulsar clock into the same headphone output and it be able to read the 50Hz pulse.

    It seems to have worked but I think there’s electricity somewhere in my audio signal – I was wondering if there was any chance this could be connected to the Clock In source? Somehow electricity coming from my interface or something?!?! Or is the Clock In source entirely seperate and the electricity will be coming from elsewhere – an issue with my PA amplifier for instance?

    The Super Pulsar’s Clock In GND is shared with all of the Super Pulsar’s other I/O jacks. So the Super Pulsar’s audio in and out have the same ground as the Clock In.

    Can you send a photo of the connections or maybe a signal flow diagram? Something like:

    Ableton -> USB Interface -> Super Pulsar Clock In
    Guitar -> Super Pulsar Left In -> Super Pulsar Left Out -> PA channel

    #123779

    That signal flow diagram was basically perfect, worked out it was a problem on the PA amplifier end of the chain! The Super Pulsar is working perfectly!

    Just one quick question regarding switching to Clock-In mode: once you have set it is it saved? Or will bank presets default to NOT reading the clock if that’s how they were originally saved?? I basically want to ensure the pedal is ALWAYS reading the clock-in source.

    Cheers
    Matt

    #123780
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    That signal flow diagram was basically perfect, worked out it was a problem on the PA amplifier end of the chain! The Super Pulsar is working perfectly!

    Just one quick question regarding switching to Clock-In mode: once you have set it is it saved? Or will bank presets default to NOT reading the clock if that’s how they were originally saved?? I basically want to ensure the pedal is ALWAYS reading the clock-in source.

    Cheers
    Matt

    Good to hear it’s working now.

    The Clock-In mode setting is saved with presets. If you have a preset that you’ve already created and want to change it to Clock-In mode:

    – First load the preset
    – Then change over to Clock-In mode by holding the WAVE INVERT button and then TAP footswitch
    – Now save the preset

    If you set the Super Pulsar to Clock-In mode while in WYSIWG, the new presets that you save will recall Clock-In mode.

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