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November 9, 2009 at 11:35 pm #79294Dr.EamerMember
Hi, i need help with my Memory Boy Pedal.
The Problem is: the maximum delay time is only around 420ms if no expression Pedal is connected,this happens also after 20 minutes or longer of “start up time”
If i connect a Expression Pedal then the Delay time is right(550ms) but only on the Chorus and Vibrato Switch Positions, at the Expression Pedal Position it is shorter again(same as with no exp.Pedal connected)!
there is a also a strange behaviour with the exp.Pedal set to Modulation control ( switch @ Exp.Pedal) the modulation is there, but if i press the pedal down to the toe position, the modulation goes away, and only the delay time gets longer!
Is maybe my Expression Pedal not good for the Memory Boy? The model is a Bespeco VM 12
Volume Pedal,which i used too with the Line6 DL4 Modeler(which i “hate” now,because since i own the Memory boy, i know what is meant by: warmth and organic analog Delay sound!!!)
In my opinion the Volume Pedal is ok, because i can set the Delay time from min to maximum without a problem or big jumps in it, only the modulation control is a bit strange,as i said before.Maybe i can adjust it myself somewhere in the Memory Boy Pedal or reset it to 550ms setting? There are 6 or 8 trimpots inside,but i dont know which one is for what?
Please let me know what helps, because i need the 550ms Delay without the Exp Pedal connected!!!
Sorry for my bad English….
Greetings to EHX, i like your Pedals very much, because the sound of most of them is beautiful and lives……
November 10, 2009 at 12:09 am #103587The EH ManModeratorIt probably has something to do w/ the value of the pot in the volume pedal. The Bespeco has a 100k pot in it while the Memory Boy’s delay time pot is probably smaller than that.
November 10, 2009 at 1:53 am #103589Dr.EamerMemberHi,thx for your answer,but, if i unplug the exp. Pedal then it should be back to 550ms, or did the exp Pedal adjusted now because of the 100k Pot some values inside the Memory boy?
How much kOhm Pot is working best for a memory boy exp Pedal?
Another question about the modulation: If i turn the depth knob a bit more than a quarter up from zero the modulation goes very very extreme, it sounds uhhm, bad….. Generally i found out that the knobs react very sensitive to very small movements. Is this normal with the memory boy, or is the stock adjustment of my unit a bit “overdone”?
November 10, 2009 at 2:42 am #103590The EH ManModeratorI don’t know anything about the modulation circuitry so I can’t answer your question.
As for the delay time, when you plug in the expression input you’re bypassing the delay time pot. If the expression pedal’s pot is a larger value it will have a different range of delay times available. The same thing happens with the Trem-O-Matic pedal I make at RonSound. The expression pedal makes it go a lot slower than the stock Rate pot.
You could replace the delay time pot w/ a different value if you have one available, or buy a different delay that gives you the delay time you want and add an expression pedal to it.November 10, 2009 at 5:22 pm #103605electro-melxModeratorThe Problem is: the maximum delay time is only around 420ms if no expression Pedal is connected .. i need the 550ms
I hope this isn’t a stupid question but how on earth do you measure something like that? you are talking about fractions of a second, I don’t think I could tell the difference.
November 10, 2009 at 8:04 pm #103611Dr.EamerMemberHi,i have a multieffect processor unit(GT6)with built in Delay, in which i can see the ms values, so i can compare with it.
i dont talk about +/-10ms delay difference, but i think if its 420ms instead of 550ms i can hear that clearly.
November 11, 2009 at 12:32 am #103617electro-melxModeratorQuote:Hi,i have a multieffect processor unit(GT6)with built in Delay, in which i can see the ms values, so i can compare with it.i dont talk about +/-10ms delay difference, but i think if its 420ms instead of 550ms i can hear that clearly.
ok, cool … I was just wondering.
January 20, 2010 at 5:13 am #106618minifuzzwormboy89Memberi have the same problem, my memory boy gets about 450ms of delay, i compared it to my DD-20 so it has a screem that shows the ms, but how do you get to the trim pots, and how do you adjust it? also what one would it be? could some one send a picture or tell me how to do it
January 20, 2010 at 10:30 pm #106653minifuzzwormboy89Memberi found another sort of problem, i have a bespeco VM12 also that iv been useing as an exspression pedal and i agree the delay time is twice as long with it but there is a problem when the pedal is all the way down the repeats sound very “tinny” and buzzy, anyone have a rememdy? i do know that as a volume pedal the VM12’s pot is some what scratchy
January 24, 2010 at 9:45 am #106763fly pan amMemberI noticed this on mine too. I tryed it with a different adapter then the one it came with, and now it works perfectly. I just run it using an Ibanez adapter and I can access the full delay time. wierd huh?
As for the noisey long delay times, I think that’s just from maxing out the delay IC. I have an old DOD FX50 analoge delay, there’s a trimpot inside it that lets you adjust the delay time. After 400-500 ms it starts getting slightly bit crushed sounding and you can hear the clock noise slightly. The longer you strech it out the more it degrades. It can be a pretty cool effect, but I’m sure that’s not desirable by everyone. So I’m just assuming that the full delay on the Mem Boy is probably staring to push the chip. But really, it does have quite a long delay time for a stock analoge delay, I think it might be longer then 550ms even. It’s deffinitly longer then my Deluxe Memory Man.
Hope this helps?
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