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Posted: 07 July 2010 08:29 PM | Link to this reply (#16)

Not sure but my my wife would love it:-) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All kidding aside that would be called “prepared guitar” and I used to use very thin foam under the strings to sound just like a banjo.
Some guys use paper clips or paper for sitar sounds.
The Hog will be fine with anything!
Bill

Cryabetes - 07 July 2010 08:21 PM

Bill-
I use rubber clerk’s thimbles between my strings at the bridge to get a “fretless/upright” sound- would these interfere with the HOG’s tracking at all?
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Posted: 13 July 2010 08:16 AM | Link to this reply (#17)

Fantastic demo and great ideas as always, Bill.


Little Off-topic: I want to ask you how to reproduce the guitar “synth” of Dominic Simper from Tame Impala in this video:

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He has a pretty basic pedalboard and i can’t really figure out (neither in many forums where I asket to other pedal junkys)...


These are all his pedalboard pics available in the web that I found:
http://s688.photobucket.com/albums/vv247/and_trea/Dominic Simper/

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I owned POG, POG2 and MicroSynth but none of them come close to that sound.
Someone said he use a POG sometime but sounds definitely more “chewy” (especially the POG 2) to my ears.
The Verbzilla “Octo” setting could be definitely a good hint, but I guess there is more…

I started to think that maybe he goes with the guitar into his microkorg (there a Boss Line Selector in the pedalboard too) but I think it’s a little bit too complicated…

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Posted: 13 July 2010 08:18 AM | Link to this reply (#18)

(sorry double post)

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Posted: 13 July 2010 08:46 AM | Link to this reply (#19)

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I would try a POG2 set for original + one octave above.
Order would be fuzz, pitch shift, delay and reverb.
Slide around one one or two strings.
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Posted: 13 July 2010 03:41 PM | Link to this reply (#20)

Yes, and I see a little Zvex box there.
Maybe it’s aFuzz Factory with a strong octave up setting.

Thanks, I’ll try!

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Posted: 21 July 2010 11:03 PM | Link to this reply (#21)

Can anyone tell me the actual settings used for the “Big Muff Hand Drum”? I tried this out.  I seem to get the best drum sounding response when I tap the dummy plug.  The back of the unit work well also.  Nothing to very little from the sides or knobs as shown in this clip.  I’m guessing I just need the proper settings.
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Effectology - 06 July 2010 09:11 AM

EHX Electro-Harmonix Effectology, Vol.17 Transforming Guitar to Bass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkDLQAvrEQQ

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Posted: 22 July 2010 07:40 AM | Link to this reply (#22)

The Muff was all the way up.
I also have an LPB-1 after to boost the gain even higher.
To add to the thump, turn the bass on your amp all the way up and crank the middle control as well.
I went direct with out an amp so I used an EQ and boosted 150Hz by 15dB (low end) and 1.6K (middle) by 15dB.
I used the Big Box Muff.
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kdinkis - 21 July 2010 11:03 PM

Can anyone tell me the actual settings used for the “Big Muff Hand Drum”? I tried this out.  I seem to get the best drum sounding response when I tap the dummy plug.  The back of the unit work well also.  Nothing to very little from the sides or knobs as shown in this clip.  I’m guessing I just need the proper settings.
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Effectology - 06 July 2010 09:11 AM

EHX Electro-Harmonix Effectology, Vol.17 Transforming Guitar to Bass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkDLQAvrEQQ

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Posted: 22 July 2010 09:34 AM | Link to this reply (#23)

Thanks Bill, I’ll give that a try.  I could see how that intense EQ would help.  I am using the big box Muff (Silver with black sides and bottom).  I’ll also try that extra boost.  Thanks again.

bill ruppert - 22 July 2010 07:40 AM

The Muff was all the way up.
I also have an LPB-1 after to boost the gain even higher.
To add to the thump, turn the bass on your amp all the way up and crank the middle control as well.
I went direct with out an amp so I used an EQ and boosted 150Hz by 15dB (low end) and 1.6K (middle) by 15dB.
I used the Big Box Muff.
Bill

kdinkis - 21 July 2010 11:03 PM

Can anyone tell me the actual settings used for the “Big Muff Hand Drum”? I tried this out.  I seem to get the best drum sounding response when I tap the dummy plug.  The back of the unit work well also.  Nothing to very little from the sides or knobs as shown in this clip.  I’m guessing I just need the proper settings.
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Effectology - 06 July 2010 09:11 AM

EHX Electro-Harmonix Effectology, Vol.17 Transforming Guitar to Bass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkDLQAvrEQQ

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Posted: 22 July 2010 09:44 AM | Link to this reply (#24)

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One more thing.
I just set the stuff up and realized I used the spliter plug as a dummy plug.
A regular 1/4 works ok but there is twice the low end from the bigger plastic plug!
The extra surface area helps.
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kdinkis - 22 July 2010 09:34 AM

Thanks Bill, I’ll give that a try.  I could see how that intense EQ would help.  I am using the big box Muff (Silver with black sides and bottom).  I’ll also try that extra boost.  Thanks again.

bill ruppert - 22 July 2010 07:40 AM

The Muff was all the way up.
I also have an LPB-1 after to boost the gain even higher.
To add to the thump, turn the bass on your amp all the way up and crank the middle control as well.
I went direct with out an amp so I used an EQ and boosted 150Hz by 15dB (low end) and 1.6K (middle) by 15dB.
I used the Big Box Muff.
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Posted: 19 August 2010 12:48 PM | Link to this reply (#25)

The intelligent ring mod:
Can’t you just hold down the tune button to achieve the same effect?
How does stereo work on the Ring Thing? If it’s just dry right, wet left then that’s fine but if it splits the signal into different sidebands won’t you lose the part of the signal that goes back into the mod input?

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Posted: 19 August 2010 04:13 PM | Link to this reply (#26)

The intelligent ring mod effect is very different than the tune button.
The sound is very different.
Tune button tunes the global pitch to a single note.
Notes other than the tuned note will be a sum and difference of that note.
The intelligent ring mod is like hitting the tune button on every note.
Intelligent ring mod is a mono effect. It can listen to only one note at a time to tune itself.
The effect is very FM synth like.

Using the intelligent mod you have only one out as the other output is feed back into the mod jack.
Using the Ring Thing in its normal fashion it is stereo with one sideband on each side.

jclancy - 19 August 2010 12:48 PM

The intelligent ring mod:
Can’t you just hold down the tune button to achieve the same effect?
How does stereo work on the Ring Thing? If it’s just dry right, wet left then that’s fine but if it splits the signal into different sidebands won’t you lose the part of the signal that goes back into the mod input?

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Posted: 19 August 2010 04:58 PM | Link to this reply (#27)
bill ruppert - 19 August 2010 04:13 PM

The intelligent ring mod effect is very different than the tune button.
The sound is very different.
Tune button tunes the global pitch to a single note.
Notes other than the tuned note will be a sum and difference of that note.
The intelligent ring mod is like hitting the tune button on every note.
Intelligent ring mod is a mono effect. It can listen to only one note at a time to tune itself.
The effect is very FM synth like.

Using the intelligent mod you have only one out as the other output is feed back into the mod jack.
Using the Ring Thing in its normal fashion it is stereo with one sideband on each side.

jclancy - 19 August 2010 12:48 PM

The intelligent ring mod:
Can’t you just hold down the tune button to achieve the same effect?
How does stereo work on the Ring Thing? If it’s just dry right, wet left then that’s fine but if it splits the signal into different sidebands won’t you lose the part of the signal that goes back into the mod input?

I meant holding down the tune button the entire time that you are playing. Theoretically you should get the same effect, no? I guess you could use a splitter to get the right signal to the mod input and the amp.

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Posted: 19 August 2010 07:34 PM | Link to this reply (#28)

Dolding down the tune button the entire time would not work.
In this mode the tune switch is disabled.
This mode has with 3 leds on.


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bill ruppert - 19 August 2010 04:13 PM

The intelligent ring mod effect is very different than the tune button.
The sound is very different.
Tune button tunes the global pitch to a single note.
Notes other than the tuned note will be a sum and difference of that note.
The intelligent ring mod is like hitting the tune button on every note.
Intelligent ring mod is a mono effect. It can listen to only one note at a time to tune itself.
The effect is very FM synth like.

Using the intelligent mod you have only one out as the other output is feed back into the mod jack.
Using the Ring Thing in its normal fashion it is stereo with one sideband on each side.

jclancy - 19 August 2010 12:48 PM

The intelligent ring mod:
Can’t you just hold down the tune button to achieve the same effect?
How does stereo work on the Ring Thing? If it’s just dry right, wet left then that’s fine but if it splits the signal into different sidebands won’t you lose the part of the signal that goes back into the mod input?

I meant holding down the tune button the entire time that you are playing. Theoretically you should get the same effect, no? I guess you could use a splitter to get the right signal to the mod input and the amp.

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Posted: 13 December 2011 12:04 AM | Link to this reply (#29)

Question; as a bass player myself and wanting to get the wicked sound you have in the Ring Thing demo with a bit more OOMF, would a Bass Big Muff set to a high gain level cause any tracking issues due to harmonic saturation? My Ring Thing is in the mail, and watching this vid sold me on the self-tune effect, but i’m unsure if the distortion will confuse the heck out of it.

Edit to clarify, the BBM would be replacing the LPB1 in the feedback chain.

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Posted: 13 December 2011 09:55 AM | Link to this reply (#30)

By all means experiment but I think the pedal where the LPB-1 is needs to be clean.
Its job is jut to boost the signal up to a level the mod input can use.
A compressor pedal turned up in volume would work there as well.

You could add the Big Muff after the Ring Thing for more distortion, that would sound great.
Good luck and have fun!
Bill

Endymion Hawk - 13 December 2011 12:04 AM

Question; as a bass player myself and wanting to get the wicked sound you have in the Ring Thing demo with a bit more OOMF, would a Bass Big Muff set to a high gain level cause any tracking issues due to harmonic saturation? My Ring Thing is in the mail, and watching this vid sold me on the self-tune effect, but i’m unsure if the distortion will confuse the heck out of it.

Edit to clarify, the BBM would be replacing the LPB1 in the feedback chain.

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