Effectology, Vol. 3: Cello Concerto for Guitar and Effect Pedals
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Posted: 23 June 2010 12:05 PM | Link to this reply (#31)

The POG2 arrived, and thus far I’m very impressed.  Tracking is even better than I’d hoped.

Right out of the gates I zeroed in on reasonably convincing double bass and cello tones.  Violins seem slightly out of reach, but I expected that they would be.  There’s a lot of complexity in high-register bow/string noise, etc. that I don’t imagine I’ll get.  If anyone has any ideas, or has had any success in approximating violin, I’m all ears.

Similarly, full string sections are probably too ambitious, (without running multiple signal paths through a fortune in pedals LOL.)  Something comparable to FM synth strings is acheivable, but here the distinction between strings and organ gets pretty blurry.

I was surprised at how much potential there is for woodwinds/reeds/etc.  I’m getting sounds reminiscnent (in varying degrees) of flute, oboe, picollo, even Bill’s Uilleann Pipes.  And what’s so great is that you can really imbue these with character by using extended techniques e.g. reverse ghost bends with a whammy, etc… all the things that make MIDI very unhappy.  I feel like I can *play the instrument* again!

So, having fun, interested in thoughts on violin, and now looking forward to the new EHX Freeze pedal!

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Posted: 23 June 2010 04:20 PM | Link to this reply (#32)
darc - 23 June 2010 12:05 PM

Right out of the gates I zeroed in on reasonably convincing double bass and cello tones.  Violins seem slightly out of reach, but I expected that they would be.  There’s a lot of complexity in high-register bow/string noise, etc. that I don’t imagine I’ll get.  If anyone has any ideas, or has had any success in approximating violin, I’m all ears.

student-grade cello bow.
they’re about $60. rosin is about $7.
it’s a pretty convincing way to do the violin stuff on guitar.

not ehx staff, just an effects enthusiast.

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Posted: 24 June 2010 08:48 AM | Link to this reply (#33)

Hey Cryabetes,

This is the second time you posted to this effect, so I decided I ought to pay some attention.  I listened to some bow-on-guitar on youtube and a few clips did really impress me!  I hadn’t seen bow on guitar since the famous/infamous Jimmy Page performance, which I always thought was a little lame (i.e. well-deserving of the Spinal Tap violin-on-guitar parody.)  But, you’re right, some folks really are getting convincing violin from guitar/bow/modern gain.  I’m ordering a bow today!

I still won’t be able to layer guitar and strings in a single live pass - I’ll probably have to rely on MIDI for that.

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Posted: 26 June 2010 08:51 PM | Link to this reply (#34)

So, yeah… working with my new bow tonight.  Some very interesting sounds happening, but I’m thinking this is not going to be a real practical solution for me.  Something I hadn’t considered: rosin is very sticky.  Get it just about anywhere on your strings and/or fingerboard and the guitar is a mess/ no longer much fun to play.  If I were to keep a little stunt guitar off to the side just for this purpose, then maybe, but I don’t realistically see that happening.

Back to the drawing board.  (And off to change these strings LOL.)

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Posted: 06 October 2011 11:53 AM | Link to this reply (#35)

It occurred to me that I could get the same effect using the Ring Thing to tune down and a POG to change the attack.  What do you think?  What order should I put them in?

also, would you mind posting the tab for that, it was killer.

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Posted: 07 October 2011 07:30 AM | Link to this reply (#36)

change the tuning before you change the ADSR. ring thing into POG.

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Posted: 11 October 2011 10:57 AM | Link to this reply (#37)

Sure try it!
Ring thing into POD2.
Experiment with different pick ups and your guitars tone control.
Sorry no TAB on the song.

aaronharmon - 06 October 2011 11:53 AM

It occurred to me that I could get the same effect using the Ring Thing to tune down and a POG to change the attack.  What do you think?  What order should I put them in?

also, would you mind posting the tab for that, it was killer.

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