Stoner Wizard - 03 June 2009 10:43 AM

Hello:

If you have enough money, don’t hesitate: Get both!. They’re not the same anyway and thus, not redundant for use in the same pedal board. If you do this, you can expand a lot the sound palette.

The DMM is more faithful to the “early U2 sound”, but also versatile for more styles while the Hazarai, despite not being analog (impossible due its extended features) is still warm-sounding and you can push it to very experimental sounds (as is the EH-tradition) and lots of sonic posibilities (looping an manipulation) apart the usual echo/delay.

If you do this, place the DMM first and the SMM/H after so you can also create patterns with the DMM and recording into SMM/H looper, or compose complex multi-delay repeats. The only flaw of the SMM/H in my opinion is that there’s no “trails” in any mode, so yo must be careful and fine when you play as the repeats cut abruptly when the effect is disengaged, instead of fading away gently.

That’s what I’d do. In fact, I have some DMM’s and the SMM/H… combine them and you’ll get fantastic results.

Good luck and make a good choice.

Regards from Spain.

Nacho

What about a mxr carbon copy with the hazarai?

electro-melx - 04 June 2009 11:17 AM

Jaypee - 04 June 2009 11:06 AM

Most of the time somebody buys it and decides it’s not for them and sends it back.  Since MF can’t sell it as brand new they scratch n dent it.

not literally I hope, I can just imagine the employees out the back with a hammer!!!

No I mean they offer it up for sale in the scratch and dent section…they don’t actually scratch and dent it….

What about a mxr carbon copy with the hazarai?

Hello: Well, the MXR Carbon Copy is another alternative to DMM. It has a lower price, but the features are different, also the sound. Despite it’s a Bucket Brigade Device… It doesn’t have the organic drive of the DMM and the chorus/vibrato option.

I also own the MXR CC, but I pair it with the Boss DD-20 in another pedal board. Here’s a quick review:

MXR Carbon Copy:

* Three controls: Regen (or Feedback), Mix and Delay
* One button: Modulation On/Off - it adds an eerie mood to the delay, it’s like the chorus/vibrato of DMM but only a “chorus” for the Carbon Copy. In fact, it’s quite similar to Boss DD-20 modulation setting.
* Two internal trimmers to adjust speed and depth for modulation.
* Maximum Delay Time: 600 ms.
* Two full-bright blue leds for status and mod.
* True Hardwire Bypass - it’s a DPDT switch with Millennium wiring to make the True Bypass instead of 3PDT switching.

This one, and the Maxon AD-999 Analog Delay are some of the finest BBD today which their sound can be compared to DMM - but they are still different. If your budget is lower, get the Carbon Copy, or try to buy a second hand DMM. If you have enough money, try them and choose the one you like the most… it’s hard to decide!. The AD-999 is more expensive than DMM, but is an excellent one because it has up to 900 ms. of delay which is a very good feature, the 4PDT switch is silent and sounds very nice.

If you like The Edge or David Gilmour delay work, EH DMM, MXR CC, or AD-999 will serve for you purposes (of course, there are more models but the price tag is higher). As a detail, I think DMM is more U2 while Carbon Copy and Maxon AD-999 are more Gilmour-esque.

Any of these will pair superb with the SMM/Hazarai for sure!, but remember place analog first, and Hazarai after so you can take advantage of looping echo patterns of the analog, besides the usual multi delay patterns, and self oscillation tricks.

Good luck!

Regards from Spain.

Nacho

bubmaynard - 02 June 2009 03:41 PM

Please tell me which would you rather own and why.  Which one is better?

DMM all the way for me…and the supply of those BBD chips isn’t going to last forever either. Grab one while you can.
Although, “better” is subjective and depends what you’re doing with it. The Hazarai does a lot more, but I like the sound of the old DMM as a straight delay. But if you want loops and reverse delay and tap tempo then digital is the way to go.

electro-melx - 04 June 2009 06:45 AM

electro-melx - 04 June 2009 06:45 AM

LILBIGMUFF - 04 June 2009 05:21 AM

is there an difference with the old and ox memory man at all?

no, they are the same…..apart from the obvious differences

Isn’t the XO all SMC (and a bitch to repair/mod)? They’re using NOS Japanese Panasonic MN3005 chips though right? ‘Same circuit’ sure, but not the same components…

yeah it’s SMC and yeah it uses NOS BBD chips

DMM . . . every time !

Well, if you’re into U2, tap tempo is pretty much a necessity, so Haz it is…